We encourage our users to test 'crazy' ideas on edge, and while there are great overviews of the differences between edx.org/edge.edx.org, I don't think we have an item-by-item list. This has discouraged some teams from testing, since they 'don't know what the differences are, so I don't know if my tests are valid."
Here's a sample response I've used in support, and it would be great to build out the item-by-item list. It could also manage expectations of course teams who, say, want to use the course on campus, but are surprised email is not available.
>The course "Creating a Course with edX Studio" has a good general overview of edge versus edX: https://www.edx.org/course/creating-course-edx-studio-edx-studiox
>The specific unit is: https://courses.edx.org/courses/course-v1:edX+StudioX+2015/courseware/170f56e7c2bf4b8ebd97902b8e346715/25bb77f6c24f4ee3b25113612487d57b/3
>There isn't a feature-by-feature listing of differences, but as the overview explains, the gist is that edge courses do not have the features to support large, public courses.
+ Edge courses do not provide bulk email to instructors.
+ Edge courses do not provide certificates.
+ Edge courses must manage the design and content of their own enrollment pages via Schedule & Details, and the enrollment pages are not listed in a public catalog.
+ Edge courses do not provide a video upload workflow via Studio, and cannot use video IDs created via upload in edx.org
+ For the purposes of 3rd party tools and permissions: edge.edx.org is a different domain from edx.org.
> Problems, exercises, and all other content should behave the same on edX.org and edge.edx.org. If you are integrating a 3rd-party, off-platform tool into the course, you may need to configure your tool to accept pings from edge.edx.org as well as edx.org.
(Also, CCX is an edge-only feature, but that's not mentioned elsewhere in the documentation.)
Awesome detail to get this started, . A meta-question for you though... For a while (FY2015-1HFY2016) it seemed that we were moving away from supporting Edge, though the replacement of it was not clearly defined. Who might know where we stand as far as the future of Edge goes?
Great meta-question - I wish I knew the answer! Agreed that there's no sense in investing in edge-vs-edx work if it's not around for long.
Last time I saw the idea of moving away from edge, it was cataloged under "engineer pain" - , would this be your realm?
Indeed I'm interested in capturing various pain points and slow-downs around here! In terms of edge vs edx.org, I'm glad you highlighted this pain point. AFAIK, there are no plans to shut down edge, and the overall intent is what you described in here: smaller courses, perhaps leaving room for experimentation. #devops folks might know more about the overall anticipated life of edge.
+1 for this ticket. I'll be curious where it lands on your teams' priorities,
also sent this to me, consolidating from another ticket.
On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 4:02 PM, Kathleen Duffy <email@example.com> wrote:
Is there a group email or something for the Documentation team? CurtinX had a couple of suggestions for future updates that I wanted to pass along. It's in her email below combined with some other stuff, so I'll just list them here:
Better differentiate the differences in process between Edge vs edX.
Provide a visual checklist / graph of some sort related to what features are / are not available for each.
Happy to chat more! And let me know if this should go to someone else, or if there's a ticketing system I'm not aware of.
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From: Jacqui Kelly <Jacqui.Kelly@curtin.edu.au>
Date: Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 1:50 AM
Subject: RE: edX studio instance > export/import function (and video stuff up)
To: Kathleen Duffy <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Thanks again for providing those links. I have to admit that sometimes it’s a little confusing with the docs.edx help documentation as to whether the instructions relate to edx.org or edge (although admittedly they do cross reference each other and they do have those little highlight boxes to point out the differences).
So - just to make sure I fully understand the video process, but essentially:
· In edx you have to upload to the LMS via Content > Video Uploads (once a YT channel has been set up and synced by the edx media team). This then processes the vids, provides a ‘Video ID’ code and publishes them to your YouTube channel; whereas
· In EDGE – you basically publish your videos to Youtube first. Then you simply embed the Youtube link (as you would with any external youtube video)
I’ve also noticed that in Edge there doesn’t appear to be any Email link under Instructor > Email. The help info only talks about ‘courses on edx.org’ – so I am correct in assuming that this feature is not in edge? Or is this something that can be ‘turned on’? J
What would be REALLY useful is an Edge v Edx.org table or chart with the features listed and ticked (or not). I don’t suppose this exists anywhere does it? On the partner portal? Something along these lines?
Feature | EdX.org | Edge
Videos uploaded and processed by LMS
Videos uploaded to Youtube and embedded
From: Kathleen Duffy email@example.com
Sent: Wednesday, 29 June 2016 10:04 PM
To: Jacqui Kelly
Subject: Re: edX studio instance > export/import function (and video stuff up)
Video components are added a little differently for Studio Edge vs. Studio. I actually don't see the "video uploads" dropdown option in other Edge courses I've created, so I'm wondering if this is showing up for you just because it was an import/export of another course. For the Edge course, did you follow the steps outlined here for adding video components? This is specifically for videos that will be on edge.edx.org. (You can see that there's a note right under section 7.2.5 that directs you to a different page for videos that will be on the edx.org site.
If this isn't the issue, let me know! I'll probably have to pass this over to Partner Support at that point.
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On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 3:54 AM, Jacqui Kelly <Jacqui.Kelly@curtin.edu.au> wrote:
I’m wondering if you can help me please?
I’ve just created a new edx EDGE instance here: https://edge.edx.org/courses/course-v1:CurtinX+PUBR2000+2016/about and I’ve exported MKT2x and imported it into this edge instance.
To give you a bit of background, the course instructor, Bridget, is interested in using a lot of the materials we developed for MKT2x in her internal unit, so we wanted to make a copy, make some changes to the materials, and run it as a SPOC (sort of)(.
The course import/export has worked fine, however in studio.edge.edx.org whenever I go to Content > Video Uploads – I’m getting a blank screen.
I’m guessing that perhaps because initially you had to set up the ‘video uploads’ section and sync it to the MKT2x you tube channel – that something has gone a bit wrong. Or it doesn’t like have an Edge course instance hooked up to the same YT instance as an edx course instance? Which makes sense as now we basically have 2 courses trying to publish to the same youtube channel.
So – how do I fix this? Is there anything you can do to help? I’m assuming that other partners may have experienced this before but wanted to check with you first, before we start making any changes to the edge course instance. All advice appreciated!
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