Kickoff Agenda (10/9/18) - turn it into own page so that we can take notes

• Introduction to group

• Discuss known areas for deprecation

• Discuss strategies for tackling and managing debt

• What do we want from this group?
  

  • How often do we want to meet?

  • What future topics would we like to discuss?

  • How do ensure that our decisions are actionable?

  • How do we track progress of the group?

Agenda (11/27) -

• What do we want to tell engineering about DEPR process?

  • Use DEPR-6 as an example

  • Be aware of Ironwood cut date

  • Reference OEP a lot

    • Discuss different states

    • 'Deprecated' state is optional

    • Timelines can be as short as 2 weeks

  • Don't be afraid of the Open Source community using things

  • Encourage people to make DEPR tickets

  • Mention working group

    • Datadog work

    • Microsites

    • Maybe cookies

    • Invite people to come kill code with us

• Removed After date - can we rename?

Agenda (12/11/2018) - 

• Removal Date:

  • Can we give firmer dates or how do we indicate that we don't know when it will be removed?

  • RESOLVED: text has been updated to say 'removed after' instead of 'removed by'

• How do we get rid of datadog in terms of execution?

  • Update DEPR-9 with info as we remove things

• Can we get rid of Password History right now?

• Try using this time to kill things, especially smaller things

Agenda (1/8/2019) -

• How are we doing on our existing DEPR tickets?

  • Datadog

    • edx-platform PR 

    • Remaining Datadog repos

• Let's go through the repos in the edx org and figure out which ones can be deleted

  • Existing OEP to cover this issue: https://github.com/edx/open-edx-proposals/blob/master/oeps/oep-0014-proc-archive-repos.rst

    • This seems like something to update

    • Is there Github functionality for this?

    • Can we just remove things and see how things break?

  • Useful for code search: remove edx-platform-old and delete master branch of edx-platform-private - Michael Terry (Deactivated)

    • Check with DevOps and Security Working Group

  • Tabling this conversation for now until it becomes a bigger issue.

• Hackathon Pre-planning
  

  • See if we can pick up stragglers who don't have projects

• Assign DEPR ticket creation

  • Look at Deprecation/Removal Evaluation for assignments.

• Spreadsheet

Agenda (1/22/2019) -

• LTI Module migration policy. How do we handle this?

  • We are going to abandon this for now, because there's a lot of people still using this, including edx.org

• Fred Smith (Deactivated) reminded me about deprecation and removal of code behind feature flags/toggles.  Even if we don't have a full-fledged reporting mechanism (as described in OEP-17), perhaps we can take a first cut at it or do something else.

  • Hackathon project planned for annotating feature flags and toggles

  • We can postpone this conversation until that project has happened.

• Opaque Keys

  • Focus on removing the usages of from_deprecated_string and to_deprecated_string

  • We will create a DEPR ticket around this (see Action Items)

Agenda (2/5/19) -

• Datadog Celebration

• Datadog Miniretro

  • What went well?

    • It got done!

    • Good job of splitting up the work across people

    • Using this time to work on it

    • Solved issues searching across edx repos

    • We didn't have to implement a replacement

  • What could we do better next time?

    • During Hackathon, MITx said that they were still using it, but we weren't aware of this

      • They were willing to move away from the current implementation, but we just had no awareness that it was happening

    • Be aware that older code will run into linting and general code cleanliness issues as we remove it.

    • We don't have a good process for things that are temporarily unmaintained

      • Hibernating? On hiatus?

  • What pain points did we run into?

    • Older code not up to standards

    • searching across edx repos was tricky

• Review Action Items

  • Exciting things!

    • WordCloud being converted into XBlock from XModule

    • OpenCraft converting capa and video into XBlocks

    • Switching off Greenkeeper to Renovate

• Review DEPR tickets

Agenda (2/19/19) -

• Ownership of DEPR tickets

  • Can we assign ownership to a group or team?

    • Can we add a field for it?

  • BOMB squad

  • This group will be responsible for triage and assigning / informing owners of tickets

• Is there a middle ground for recording things that need to be deprecated?

  • Suggest that people create DEPR tickets

  • Create a ticket template - Diana Huang

    • Can we include fields for Contagion / Effort / Impact?

    • Subtasks for DEPR tickets

    • Can make a business case for which ones should be pushed forward

• Feedback on DEPR process from community

  • Peter Pinch likes the DEPR process

    • Can we add another channel for notifying the community about changes?

    • Move slash-n-burn channel to Open edX?

    • Notify community on removal as well as proposal.

• What should we work on next?
  

  • External auth over the line

  • Microsites

  • Opaque Keys / Mobile APIs

Agenda (3/19/19) - 

• Action items

• DEPR triage

• External Auth Celebrations!

  • At the Open edX conference

• DEPR → INCR tickets

  • Opaque Keys seems like a good place for this

• XBlock Deprecations: Deprecating and Disabling an XBlock for the edX website - Farhana is going to merge some wiki pages as part of the OfficeMix work

• Island of Misfits

• Pipeline to DEPR

  • Finding dead code in Prod

    • Can we run coverage.py on a machine in Prod?

    • Vulture - can do static code analysis of dead code

  • Awareness

    • Celebrating successes

      • Post upstairs.

    • Occasional reminders to feature teams

Agenda (4/2/2019) -

• Action Items

  • Diana Huang - Make DEPR tickets for:

    • EdxRestApiClient

    • FontAwesome webfonts in favor of SVG → INCR tickets

    • Learner Analytics Dashboard

  • Diana Huang - Make INCR ticket for removing notes - no manual testing required

  • Team will ensure that

    • DEPR-17, DEPR-18, and DEPR-19 are communicated out to the community

    • Attempt to chunk up the microsites work

      • Remove from certificates

      • Remove from shoppingcart

      • bulk_enroll

      • commerce

      • django-comment-client

      • static-template-view

      • user-api

      • user_authn

    • Microsites for later 

      • theming

      • site_configuration

      • edxmako

• Triage

• Open edX discussion

  • Pinata talking point 

  • What else can we do to invite the community into the process?

    • deprecated swag for taking on or proposing DEPR/INCR tickets?

      • old pins, old t-shirts?

      • zombie Xsy stickers.

      • Slack badges? Jeremy Bowman (Deactivated) looking into this

        • Can be reused for INCR ticket participation as well

    • challenge coins with zombie piñata on it

Agenda (4/16/19) -

• Action Items

  • Diana Huang still needs to make INCR tickets for notes

  • Still need subtasks on DEPR tickets

  • DEPR-17 needs to be communicated out (get ARCH to do it?) - keep on hold for now

  • Find a tool for searching and de-duping across edx org repos

    • This is the one that we were thinking of earlier: https://github.com/jaebradley/github-searcher-cli

  • Create DEPR for Parse.com dependencies Feanil Patel

  • Communicate out DEPR-21 & DEPR-23 - Diana Huang

  • Communicate out DEPR-22 - Michael Terry (Deactivated)

    • Discuss with Adam & ARCH FedX about removing old font-awesome bindings from cookiecutter and existing frontend apps.

• Hack on things

  • Microsites

  • Fontawesome web fonts → turn into INCR tickets

    • Triaging into specific steps

Agenda (4/30/19) -

• Action Items

  • Add subtasks to microsites story

    • Diana Huang

  • Communicate out DEPR-22

    • Have we removed from cookiecutter?

      • We have filed a Github issue against the cookiecutter repo

  • Look into the migration between LTI module and LTI XBlock.

  • Capa Module → Capa XBlock close to merging (hooray!)

  • Update set of stickies in the Cafeteria

    • we have deprecated more things, list them!

• Hack on Things

  • Microsites

  • Finish opaque keys. What else needs to be done?

    • Handled edx-microsite

Agenda (6/4/19) -

• Wins!

  •  https://openedx.atlassian.net/browse/DEPR-37

  • Removing old edx forks!

    • We are going to create a new github org for archived repos

• Django 1.11 → Django 2.2

  • Django 1.11 ends support in April 2020

    • Focus on Python 3 for now?

  • Encourage teams to upgrade their IDAs

  • Not owned by this team

    • might be worth it to ask engineering management how this is going to be project managed and resourced.

    • Feanil Patel is running this for Python 3, including tooling to handle upgrades which engineering should be able to make use of for Django upgrade.

• BOM Squad find deprecated APIs/API endpoints that are not being used

  • What can we do to support this?

  • Maybe add it to the agenda for next time

• Tools team is finding all feature toggles.

  • We can remove code branches that are not used any longer.

  • We can review this as a team once the report is ready.

• Deprecation of the Month?

  • Invite people to get involved in removing things when they have time that month.

  • Try Friday 3-5?

• What else do we need to do for https://openedx.atlassian.net/browse/DEPR-16 ?

  • Merge opaque-keys branch to remove these methods

  • Make it a major version bump

  • Update other repos to use the new version

Agenda (6/11/19) -

• Opaque Keys

  • Need to get other edx-platform dependencies updated

  • edx-ccx-keys needs to be updated as well due to dependencies

    • Maybe we can move this into OEP-18 and maybe add to the Jenkins job

    • Maybe we can move this into opaque-keys 

• Microsites

  • Theming in progress

  • Nimisha cleared out a lot of djangoapps

• Eng All Hands presentation

  • Is there anything missing?

• Hack on things

Agenda (6/25/19) -

• Wins

  • Brittney removed the old Enterprise API endpoints!

• Removing portions of large deprecation efforts

  • Ex: shopping cart pdf generation

    • We want to get rid of shoppingcart

      • Can someone put together a proposal for getting rid of shoppingcart?

        • Have we moved donations?

        • We are still seeing activity on NR, what is that from?

        • What is our strategy that we would like to take for getting rid of this?

        • Maybe a hackathon project

  • What other things can we do this for?

    • Login/Registration?

      • Find whether or not this is blocked by anything else

      • What other things use the old pages as a dependency?

• Hackathon

  • What can we encourage people to work on?

    • https://openedx.atlassian.net/browse/DEPR-18

    • Microsites completion

    • Strategy for removing shoppingcart

    • https://openedx.atlassian.net/browse/DEPR-15

      • See if we can shuffle this along

    • https://openedx.atlassian.net/browse/DEPR-21

      • Can we put together or find a sample PR for converting this? Michael Terry (Deactivated)

    • Evaluate API endpoint usage in New Relic and see what isn't being used at all.

    • Sniff for unused code in prod as input for new DEPR ticketsd

  • Add these suggestions to the Hackathon idea list! Diana Huang

• Microsites

  • Continue hacking

Agenda (8/6/2019) -

• Hackathon Debrief

  • Notes work: https://openedx.atlassian.net/browse/DEPR-18

    • Reach out and let Brian Mesick (Deactivated) know that we're going to be taking this on

    • Nimisha Asthagiri (Deactivated) to take on this PR

  • Microsites work:

    • Issues with tests, continuing onwards.

  • shoppingcart ticket

    • Nimisha Asthagiri (Deactivated) to talk to Arch squad about replacing Donations on the dashboard page

      • communicate with Revenue squad to understand the impact of donations

      • reach out to Brian Mesick (Deactivated) about data about donations that go through shoppingcart

• Wins

  • ParsePY: https://openedx.atlassian.net/browse/DEPR-41

  • firebase-token-generator: https://openedx.atlassian.net/browse/DEPR-15

• White Label being sunsetted in February 2020

  • Can we ask the Enterprise team to create a DEPR ticket?

  • Michael Terry (Deactivated) to talk to the Enterprise team about this.

    • What alternatives are for the open source community?

• Brainstorming: Reaching out to other parts of the org about DEPR help and support

  • Theme Demos

    • Make the business case for why deprecation is important

    • Diana Huang to work with Nimisha Asthagiri (Deactivated) on this

  • FEDx? Other working groups?

    • Removal of old code blocked in part by the microfrontends story and also white label

  • Quarterly pinata!

    • People who have removed things get to hit it first

    • Lunch on Eng-All-Hands day

    • Can we get a mascot?

  • Encourage people to make tickets as soon as they find things that are no longer used

    • Can we set up a slack integration for this? 

    • Ensure that we discuss new deprecation tickets during DEPR for triage and moving things along

  • INCR

    • Django 2 warnings

    • EdxRestApiClient

  • Reach out to Ned Batchelder (Deactivated) about APIs that seem like they can be removed.

• Common issues in deprecation

  • Dependencies

  • Test updates

    • Arch squad to tackle evaluating the usefulness of tests in the future

• Hacking

  • Microsites

  • Notes

  • https://openedx.atlassian.net/browse/DEPR-20

• Agenda - (8/20/2019)

  • Wins!

    • Microsites

      • What can we do to document the process for removing djangoapps – including migrations?

      • This will be useful for Notes

      • Make sure to ping Matt Tuchfarber (Deactivated) when this documentation exists

    • DOPrecation!

      • Making progress

      • Finalizing getting insights off of it

      • VEDA is the last IDA using it

  •  Journals

    • With guests from Enterprise team!

    • Aiming to remove by Juniper

    • Haven't started doing this work yet

    • DEPR team to assist with the documentation, etc

  • DEPR triage

    • shoppingcart

      • Is this blocked on Dashboard rewriting?

      • How many people are still donating?

        • We haven't gotten any donations through this path since April

        • Very limited usage over two years

      • What can we cut out bits and pieces?

      • Discuss with Revenue Product Owner about donations and acceptable alternatives

        • Diana Huang

      • Enterprise looking into setting up subscriptions

    • DEPR-44 - Michael Terry (Deactivated)

      • take on cleanup of ticket

      • announce to community

      • do some quick code analysis

  • Check in on action items

    • Talk to Enterprise about White Label going away - what is the plan around this?

      • last usage in Feb

      • no plans to remove this right now – community still seems to be using it 

      • Michael Terry (Deactivated)

    • Talk to BOM squad about deprecated APIs

  • Theme Demos Presentations

Agenda (9/3/19) -

• Wins

  • Journals work

    • Digression into getting onto a newer version of Elasticsearch, hopefully at least getting onto 2, where both Haystack and elasticsearch-dsl are both supported

• Updates on shoppingcart deprecation

  • still need to get time with product to discuss this

  • PDF generation still generates invoices for donations, so we may still need this

• Triage

  • no new updates

• OEP updates

  • Diana Huang to take on the responsibility of updating these to remove references to edx-code and transfer arbiter responsibilities

• Pinata emoji for announcing removals

• Hack on things

Agenda (9/17/19) -

• Pattern Library

  • Places it exists

    • ecommerce

    • edx-platform

    • insights

  • existing INCR tickets

    • https://openedx.atlassian.net/browse/INCR-43

  • we are still dealing with v1 pages on edx-platform

  • pair programming on one of the INCR tickets to see if we can move over at least one of these locations

  • future work: start documenting the v1 pages to prep for conversion

• Shoppingcart update

  • Trying to product time

  • Replace PDF receipts with text on the email

  • Still angling for Paypal button on the dashboard to replace shoppingcart flow

• Wins

  • OEP updates complete

  • Notes?

  • Documentation on removing djanogapps

  • Removing the USE_AS_ANALYTICS_SERVER flag.

• Triage

• Track the number of lines of code in an organization between meetings! Diana Huang

• Hack on things

Agenda (10/1/29) -

• DOP-recation!

  • Diana Huang to announce to community
    

    • accepted 2 weeks out

    • removed in February

  • Can we carve out time to work on this?

    • Maybe during next hackathon

    • Maybe the Django 2 conversion team will have time

    • Maybe during hacking time of the deprecation working group?

  • Julia Eskew (Deactivated) to add subtasks to the DEPR ticket

• Messaging for Mongo Modulestore

  • How do we alert community?

  • 0.6% of our traffic is going to old mongo

  • Add messaging to old mongo courses

  • Juniper - warning messaging

  • Koa - read-only old Mongo

  • Lilac - removal of old Mongo

    • rerouting of traffic to old Mongo courses towards a newer run of the course

  • Switch the default for unit tests to use split instead of old mongo

  • Message to product that we're planning this

•  Updates

  • shoppingcart

    • got sign off from Shelby on replacing the donation button w/Paypal button

    • may be able to kill donations entirely

  • pattern library

  • Notes - Diana Huang

• What next?

  • Finish Notes

  • Focus on Juniper for Mongo Modulestore

  • DOPrication

• Hack on things

Agenda (10/15/19)

• Hack on things!

  • Doprication

  • Messaging around Mongo Modulestore

  • UX Pattern Library

Agenda (10/29/19)

• Guest: Farhanah Sheets (Deactivated)

  • edx-search

    • Where is this being used?

      • built-in marketing site

      • Teams?

      • courseware search at some point?

      • edx-enterprise

    • Could we replace this with elasticsearch-dsl?

      • Better supported

      • What would the scope be? (see previous question)

    • Once we have answers to these questions, create a DEPR ticket and proposal.

• What have we deleted lately? slides

• Wins!

  • Old Notes

• Updates
  

  • Mongo Modulestore

  • DOPRication

    • Veda DOPrication completed by S&E!

      • Also on Python 3!

    • Remaining work is still Insights and edx-mktg

      • Subtask created for edx-mktg

  • Logistration cleanup and removal

    • Arch-FED team is working this

    • Removed ENABLE_COMBINED_LOGIN_AND_REGISTRATION and deprecated endpoints

• Triage

  • https://openedx.atlassian.net/browse/DEPR-53

    • Will have to wait until White Label is gone forever(!?)

• Hack on things

Agenda (11/12/19)

• Estimate of XModule → XBlock conversion by OpenCraft

•  Triage

  • VerifiedTrackCohort

    • https://openedx.atlassian.net/browse/DEPR-56

• Hack on things

  • edx-search

    • TNL are planning on adding it to courses on a course-by-course basis

    • Elasticsearch upgrade

      • Forums does need to upgrade things 

      • Grab stakeholders for a discussion about elasticsearch upgrades

  • DOPrication

    • Unsure of status

    • Only remaining service is Insights

    • Can this working group take on the work to do this removal once Insights is complete?

  • pattern library

  • anything else?

Agenda (11/26/19)

• Old Mongo migration

  • planning on deleting the old Mongo courses

  • can we delete the old data out of CSM?

    • limiting factor on adding back in an index onto edx.org

    • probably not worth it

      • need to understand the impact on data dumps and the course lifecycle

• What do we do with the Dead Xsy?

  • Ghosts?

    • post-its found

  • Skulls?

• Ongoing projects

  • DOPRication

  • Logistration cleanup

    • ensure that this is mentioned in Juniper release notes

• What should we focus on next?

  • Deprecation ticket/announcement for track.backends.django.TrackingLog if applicable - https://openedx.atlassian.net/browse/DEPR-57

Agenda (1/21/20)

• Wins

  • old discovery!!!!

    • piñata at 2:30pm

  • cleanup of logistration code

• Continuing work

  • DOPrication

  • deprecation warnings pytest plugin

• Discussion deprecated Xblock apis

  • https://openedx.atlassian.net/browse/BOM-1091

  • DEPR-59

    • Can move to removing

  • Removed xblock.fragment support

    • Replaced by WebFragment package

  • Removed runtime without id_generator support

  • Will be handled in architecture

• Old Mongo Removal

  • Will be handled by TNL

• Field trip to Target?

  • Currently put on hold

• Future of DEPR working group?

  • should we reschedule?

  • what should we focus on?

    • removal of things that are deprecated that predate DEPR process

      • should be able to leverage warnings report for that

    • continue picking at things

      • finding things that have been ignored over the years?

  • Review of 

    • lti_module - TNL has plans

    • display_name_with_default_escaped - make DEPR ticket?

• Action Items

  • Announce DEPR-57 

Agenda (2/4/20) -

• Wins

  • Old Mongo DEPR accepted

  • enterprise catalogs DEPR filed by enterprise

  • Ghost sticky notes 

• Updates

  • DOPRication continuing

• Hackathon

  • shoppingcart donations → paypal conversion project

  • https://openedx.atlassian.net/browse/DEPR-45 - may not be tenable in the time period

  • https://openedx.atlassian.net/browse/DEPR-21 - somewhat manual - maybe a good project for using the refactoring tools

  • https://openedx.atlassian.net/browse/DEPR-39 - small, self-contained. can just be removed. the only holdouts were from Stanford and they are no longer running their own instance

• Hack on DEPR-57

Agenda (2/18/20)

• Hackathon readout

  • shoppingcart

  • class_dashboard

• Next steps

  • The problem of shoppingcart

    • Financial reporting the big blocker on this

    • Can we add a product to ecommerce for this?

    • Let's talk to DE about whether or not they can tackle this.

      • Diana Huang

  • Tackling EdxRestApiClient

    • Using refactoring tools for doing this work - Diana Huang

  • CourseTalk deprecation

    • Find relevant product person (probably Marco) to see if we can remove this functionality

    • Announce to the community

• Hack on things

Agenda (3/3/20)

• Wins

  • Shoppingcart donation flow removal approved

    • Update DEPR to mention that the donation flow is being removed as well.

  • DOPrecation is complete

    • Clears the way for Django 2

• Next steps

  • How do we get rid of shoppingcart?

    • Announce to community

      • Update DEPR to remove the donation flow entirely

      • Action Item: Diana Huang 

    • Get rid the donation flow and confirm that it's gone and working

    • Get rid of the shoppingcart app.

      • Ensure that the old tables remain for financial history purposes

  • DOPrecation

    • Make sure that the data is backed up somehow

      • Current plan is to back up to sql dumps and store on S3

  • EdxRestApiClient

    • https://openedx.atlassian.net/browse/DEPR-21 

    • break up into subtasks

    • automated refactoring wouldn't be sufficient for fixing these

    • Can we split things into INCR tickets?

      • Would need to have good documentation

      • Attempt to pick up usages and fix them

      • Carry this over until next time

  • Pattern Library

    • Review of https://openedx.atlassian.net/browse/INCR-43

    • Understand Jira Wizardry to move blocked tickets into DEPR instead of INCR

  • Course Reviews

    •  https://openedx.atlassian.net/browse/DEPR-48

    • Get confirmation from product about removal Nimisha Asthagiri (Deactivated)

• Hack on things

Agenda (3/17/20)

• INCR++ - staging for INCR, more complex INCR

  • We did get a PR from EduNext to remove pattern_library from program_details

    • https://openedx.atlassian.net/browse/OSPR-4258

    • Maybe we can ask them for ongoing help in getting rid of pattern library

    • Will follow up with TNL about ensuring code review gets done

• Course Reviews

  • We have confirmation from product about getting rid of it

  • Action Item: announce to community Diana Huang

• shoppingcart

  • Action Item: announce to community Diana Huang

Agenda (4/14/20)

• Django 2, hooray!

• shoppingcart and course reviews updates

  • shoppingcart accepted

    • how do we want to tackle?

  • course reviews rejected

    • will talk with product to make clear our intentions to remove code that is already outdated according to our standards

• Blended development of DEPR tickets
  

  • Pattern library - already a ticket in place: https://openedx.atlassian.net/browse/BLENDED-175

    • To be announced to community by Adam Butterworth (Deactivated)

    • Can we track the pre-pattern library pages to get a sense of what that looks like?

      • Adam Butterworth (Deactivated) to take a first stab at it.

  • EdxRestApiClient

    • Diana Huang to make a brief around this

  • SiteConfiguration removal - discussion with eduNext - could be owned by the people using it

    • Diana Huang to reach out to #white-label-eng

• DEPR-22 and DEPR-5 next steps

  • Adam Butterworth (Deactivated) to follow up with Paragon working group on DEPR-22

  • Announce DEPR-5 to the community, don't give it more than 2 weeks for comment Michael Terry (Deactivated)

• DEPR of old MFE implementations

  • how can we get the Open edX community to use MFE?

    • theming is the biggest blocker it seems

  • Wordpress model: provide the set of apps, but allow people to replace MFEs

  • Can we make this a blended development project?

  • We probably want this to be an OEP?

  • Blockers

    • Running in devstack - handled by TNL David Joy (Deactivated)

    • Theming - ????

    • Running in Open edX production stack - Nimisha Asthagiri (Deactivated) to attempt to do this blended

    • edX white label (wait this out)

Agenda (5/12) - 

• Blended update

  • still need to finish EdxRestApiClient blended brief

• Other updates

  • Possible DEPR tickets

    • nose (for testing)

      • remove from all the remaining repositories where it is still being used

    • cyclomatic complexity - radon

      • call library directly instead of through another layer of abstraction

• Hack on stuff

  • shoppingcart

    • tests

      • remove references to shoppingcart from tests that are not in shoppingcart

    • frontend templates that are referring to shoppingcart

    • find code outside of shoppingcart that refers to it

Agenda (6/9) -

• Updates

  • pattern library changes

    • Done as part of blended

    • Work is ongoing

  • Old Mongo

    • Messaging is going up soon in Studio for courses that are still using it

  • shoppingcart

  • elasticsearch work done as part of blended development as well

    • proposal from contractor, hopefully will finalize soon

• veda should have a DEPR ticket soon

• Hack on things

Agenda (next time) -

• Deprecating XBlocks/XModules

  • Create a general process around deprecating these thing

    • LTI specifics

    • Maybe talk with partner support

      • product wrote a document about how to do this work

        • Partner Product Adoption and Communication

      • Who are our Content and Partner Success Leads?

        • Is this DEPR-by-DEPR process? - We don’t want this to be the case.

        • Reach out to Jennifer Akana about this

        • Need to figure out how to get contact with individual PMs, especially with cross-cutting features (that we are removing)

        • Can we get a designated communication person for DEPR-work?

          • Reach out to Lauren/Product for a communication/project manager - Nimisha Asthagiri (Deactivated)

• Another proposed DEPR

  • inline_js.html

    • Create a DEPR ticket around this - Diana Huang

• XServer deprecation - https://openedx.atlassian.net/browse/DEPR-95

  • XQueue still in use by university partners

  • Replace with xqueue-watcher

    • Queues can point to a new endpoint with remote config

• pattern-library

  • Work being handled as a blended project

  • Michael Terry (Deactivated) to communicate out to community

• Microfrontend replacement work

  • Can we blend this?

  • Talk with Cory and Bill on SRE as input on this

  • Feanil Patel and Nimisha Asthagiri (Deactivated) to do the high-level discovery on this in prep to either do a BOM project or blended project

• shoppingcart

Agenda (7/7/2020) -

• shoppingcart hacking

• Old Mongo deprecation continuing apace.

Agenda (8/4/20) -

• Toggles pipeline into DEPR

  • Deprecating things that we haven’t touched in years

  • We have a sample that was presented to Arch Tea Time! - https://meet.google.com/linkredirect?authuser=0&dest=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fspreadsheets%2Fd%2F129ZueNcKz-0hQOB5MicwTGxWLfd6hrKCgfZMt9qh81w%2Fedit%23gid%3D280145045

    • Need to spend some time analyzing it for DEPR

    • Will have to think about how to automate analysis at some point

      • Looking at expiration dates at the very least

      • Looking at modification dates > two years ago

    • Next meeting, do a more thorough analysis.

• In light of Deprecation Notice: Notifier (discussion forum digest) , is there DEPR work to be done for the notifier repository?

  • Action Item: Make DEPR ticket for notifier - Diana Huang

  • Is there code in edx-platform as well as the notifier repo that needs to be removed?

• Who do we need to notify about removal of donation flow from dashboard?

  • Marco volunteered to be our product person to notify others when this is happening.

    • Action Item Feanil Patel

  • Notify Data Engineering that this change is happening, so they can prepare for it

    • Action Item: Diana Huang

  • Write an ADR about using ecommerce over shoppingcart

    • Should we deprecate the v0 commerce api?

Agenda (8/18/20) -

• Look through toggle report to find candidates for DEPR

  • Make tickets for good candidates

• Notifier deprecation

  • A few minor comments but not much

  • Can we move to accepted?

• shoppingcart deprecation

  • Hooray for getting rid of donations workflow!

  • Javascript issues

    • Javascript calls urls that are in shoppingcart

    • Let’s take a look at whether or not these endpoints are called in production

  • Tests are relying on having a stubbed shoppingcart for their flows

  • Work plan:

    • Put stuff back into PR until tests pass

      • This seems to be a cascading problem, skipping to moving stub payment service next

    • Remove Javascript separately

      • Understand what needs to be done for verify_student JS

      • We might be able to delete payment steps from the verify_student flow. Are people in the community using this?

    • Move stub payment service into commerce or other reasonable place without shoppingcart stub parts

    • Remove all other shoppingcart code

Agenda (9/15/20)

• Elasticsearch Upgrade

  • have to get the deploy out to stage

  • set up infrastructure

• Removing entire services - how do we get these over the line? - holding up service upgrades for Python versions, etc.

  • XServer

    • Open PR to remove queues that point to XServer

    • Are there courses still pushing things onto those queues?

      • XQueue probably has that data

    • Once that’s done, we can move xserver to unsupported

    • Destroy infrastructure - in edx-internal, edx-secure, edx-gomatic, configuration(?), terraform

    • Remove from sandboxes and jenkins-workers

  • Notifier

    • notifications is still configured on sandbox/devstack

    • probably talks to cs_comments_service directly

      • nope

      • notifier_api djangoapp in edx-platform

    • create subtasks for the work

      • turn off on sandboxes

      • remove code/secrets from edx-platform

  • VEDA

    • talk to Alan about the process

    • targeted for removal on Sep 25

• shoppingcart

  • Last PR to get rid of shoppingcart djangoapp is very close to landing

  • JS side of things is still unclear

Agenda (9/29/20) -

Special Guest - Kyle McCormick

• Upcoming Deprecations -

  • https://openedx.atlassian.net/browse/DEPR-117

    • LMS doesn’t validate the orgs for courses

    • Organizations table used by default

    • Toggle to enable this behavior, default to off.

    • Recommendation: default to false. DEPR to remove toggle. aim for Koa. if doesn’t make cutoff, let it go to Lilac

  • sys hack removed

    • break imports of edx-platform into libraries

• Shoppingcart hacking

  • 10

Agenda (10/13/20) -

• Shoppingcart - what’s left?

  • ~20k lines of code deleted as part of this project from edx-platform

  • assuming 2 million lines of code in edx-platform, this is about 1% of the codebase being deleted

• After shoppingcart

  • What’s next?

    • notifier, XServer

Agenda (10/27/20) -

• MIT deprecating sysadmin dashboard!

  • Peter Pinch handling all the notifications and such himself

  • can we get him something in celebration?

  • we could maybe have a budget for doing things?

  • can we make a DEPR Xsy? Scissors Xsy? - Diana Huang to reach out to Xsy designers

  • Challenge coins? - Nimisha Asthagiri (Deactivated) to investigate in general

• Questions about notifier repo

  • can we avoid MySQL and Ubuntu upgrades?

    • Diana Huang to communicate that we’re dropping notifier from openedx

  • get it into Koa?

    • code might not be ready but we can just drop the repo

• XServer

  • A set of courses need to be verified that they are removed or updated https://openedx.atlassian.net/browse/DEPR-113

  • We have a PR ready to go. Need the bandwidth to monitor XQueue activity once the PR is merged to ensure no other issues appear.

• shoppingcart cleanup

  • what else needs to be done?

  • Questions around JS? - wait on the new microfrontend to be ready for OpenEdX so we can deprecate and remove that frontend code

  • let people know this was removed - all hands vs. theme demos

    • Diana Huang to do

• Heads up on incoming DEPRs from Programs theme: /wiki/spaces/PT/pages/1936228560

• What’s next?

  • After notifier/XServer

  • Removing verify student/account settings/profile

  • Need to create a DEPR for verify student in edx-platform

  • edge(???)

    • can we start gathering data for why we should get rid of edge

    • /wiki/spaces/PT/pages/1815085291

    • What is the cost of supporting new features?

Agenda (11/10/20) -

• Notifier removal status

  • Just https://openedx.atlassian.net/browse/DEPR-112 remaining

• XServer removal status

• Quick followup on sysadmin dashboard deprecation, rewards for community DEPRs

  • Waiting for Diana on this, focus on the badge first

• Looked at TNL-related DEPR tickets in the pipeline

  • https://openedx.atlassian.net/browse/DEPR-108 seems ready to move to removing?

• Hacking time

  • Feanil created testeng-secure PR for Notifier removal, passed to SRE for review

  • Jeremy working on edx-internal PR for Notifier removal

  • Feanil looking into XServer removal

  • Nimisha and Sarina following up on https://openedx.atlassian.net/browse/TNL-7061 and https://openedx.atlassian.net/browse/DEPR-48

  • Notifier removal done except for moving to edx-unsupported

Agenda (11/24/20) -

• Start next steps in Removing a Djangoapp from an existing project for shoppingcart DB tables removal

• Continue XServer removal?