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Theming Advisory Group meeting - Tuesday, March 26, 2019
Theming Advisory Group meeting - Tuesday, March 26, 2019
In Attendance
Stanford
- Steven Burch
- Giulio Gratta
Appsembler
- John Baldwin
OpenCraft
- Braden MacDonald
eduNEXT
- Felipe Montoya
edX
- Nimisha Asthagiri
- David Joy
User stories
Stanford
- Look and feel
- Feature development
- Hiding, replacing, adding features
- Adding disclamers
- Adding HTML to sidebar, header, footer
- Have their own instances, each individually branded.
- Three separate prod deployments:
- On campus instance
- MOOC offering
- Med school instance
- Always the same platform code
- Customizations are feature flagged
- Use theming to hide SSO accounts tab
- Can't use the word "student" in some instances, for instance.
- SSO exclusively, no unlinking accounts
- Fork the platform
- One repo for all themes
- Fork of pattern libraries
- Ginko
Appsembler
- Customers: tech companies and education resellers
- Multi-tenancy
- Enterprise customers with standalone instances.
- Look and feel
- Need look and feel consistency with external environments
- Fork of platform, different branches for different needs (multi-tenancy vs. Enterprise)
- Enterprise share same branch and use feature flags
- Upgrades are horrible pain.
- Want plugin architecture, been thinking about their own.
- Figures
- Need customization on frontend
- Need custom cards/UI elements
- Brand new code
- Email formatting is hard
OpenCraft
- Does not fork platform.
- Customizations done as theming, plugins, or features which get contributed back.
- Limits their ability to do detailed theming, have to say 'no' sometimes.
- Template overrides
- CSS
- Use translation files to change phrases.
- Dozens of instances, very easy to upgrade/maintain.
- Want better theming, still without customization/forking.
- Want plugin architecture
- No multi-tenancy
- Want real-time theming
- Client uploads logo, sees it immediately for instance.
- Email formatting is hard
- Nimisha says: Maybe better in Ironwood?
eduNEXT
- Three types of instances
- Customized instances for people in their own data centers/AWS accounts
- Big customers, very opinionated
- Code lives in fork.
- Try to use theming if they can, otherwise change code.
- - Multi-tenant instance with 3000 sites
- Use theming to make them all look different
- Microsites used to change feature flags per client, add custom CSS, etc.
- Site configurations change themplate path and swap themes for each customer.
- Consulting for large projects. Super customized. Example: replace ecommerce with something else.
- Customized instances for people in their own data centers/AWS accounts
- Different types in different forks.
- 60 features added.
- Don't merge back.
- Every few months, take what's on Hawthorn master and build their features on top of it.
- Extensive doc on how to do this.
General comments
- OEP process: be more communicative
- Why react? Wide adoption, Facebook adopted React, not bleeding edge, but solid and meets business needs.
- Need to communicate timelines for deprecation. Juniper? Later? Need to know far enough in advance that it's not a surprise and there's time to update/adopt it.
- Feature flags for each of the micro-frontends is a good thing.
- Don't want to rewrite themes with every named release.
- Pattern library: just kill it! Put styling somewhere else.
- Start getting down to brass tacks with practical proposals for customization - move on from requirements gathering.
- If devstack looked different than edx.org, many upgrade problems would be fixed.
- "Make the common case fast, make the uncommon case possible."
- Page that is a particular theming pain point? Dashboard.
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