Where is the right place for this student info to live? Is this “data” even a concern for this WG? The only actual users we have found for it use it as a student directory!
Notes
View was of detailed user data and modules they interacted with.
Was sparsely used
PII risk
Other alternatives exist for getting similar data, but maybe not to the module level
We can see how they are doing on questions, but not at as low a level
Will Insights by design avoid pulling in PII in the future? Yes. Will focus on aggregates over learner level data which can leak out in numerous ways.
Can we add an ADR specifying this decision
Already turned off at edX
Deprecation has been announced, end of March is the comment deadline
It would be removed in Nutmeg
If this data comes back, individual learner engagement, is that a matter for this group?
Yes and no, an inform of plans to build a student directory would be helpful however.
Should we be deprecating other versions of export/import in favor of this or an extended version of this?
The main need here is to re-hydrate block ids and there’s hope that there will be an easier way to do that in the future
Would the course block API enable this today? Maybe, would require some discovery.
With a block id you can get usage ids, titles, etc.
Not sure what happens for items that are not connected to the course tree like textbooks
Standard for ETL for Insights
@Maria Fernanda Magallanes Z
Starting a conversation among Insights users on standards and how to keep it going as 2U deprecates pipeline
Insights is the only place that access control is done today in our instructor analytics system
Insights currently does data transformation beyond what is done in the API, can we eliminate this?
How can we move into a phase of converging on a design recommendation?
Starting with ETL and defining our migration path in phases may be a way of doing this.
Action items
Review the notes for accuracy, Everyone.
Add creating an ADR for the PII stance of insights as part of the Learner View deprecation work. @Andy Shultz (Deactivated)
MIT had issues authenticating against Studio because of delegated authentication to the LMS. They were being redirected to the login path an unable to exercise the APIs for import/export that exist in Studio.
@Maria Fernanda Magallanes Z will start a conversation in Discourse to try to get more engagement form Insights users.